I think the spinning rings on a stroboscopic tuner may provide some hints as to the general nature of the individual instrument: the stringing scale, and the string gauges or stiffness. With a real-live stringed instrument, the upper partials or overtones are very interesting to the human piano tuner. (As George Takei said from the back seat: "I read." That is my only qualification with regard to piano tuning or stroboscopic tuners.) SteveO, please identify any foolishness in my text below, and elaborate if possible. I was hoping that PianoTuner SteveO would answer the question, because I have scant qualifications in this arena. QuoteWhat would you do with that information?What would you do with information about the overtones? What's funny is, I can't write the name of the software or the forum will reject my post, presumably because it looks like spam. It's got lots of other stuff that I haven't explored including an overtone graph. I've used its waveform display to inform my voicing process and I use its volume graph to help me equalize the pickup placement. In addition to all that, the tuner I use now provides other information I really like. (That's actually just an oscilloscope program, not the tuner I currently use) Plus, the big monitor display is nicer to look at than a handheld device. The computer in my shop is wired into the amplification system so using software tuners is actually easier than hooking up stand-alone units. After using the Strobo-Flip for a while, I wanted to see if anything else could do better. Particularly in the treble, they all have trouble locking onto the fundamental pitch. Why did you abandon yours to move on to a software tuner?Īlmost every tuner I've tried has struggled to provide meaningful information about the entire range of a Seventy Three. That is way more deviation than contributed by temperament or intonation.Quote from: alenhoff on July 12, 2017, 07:14:35 PMThe Stroboflip seems to be discontinued, but seems similar to the Strobo Plus HD I've been looking at. This one is good because you can play and hear a tone while entering the next frequency, then hit play to instantly compare. A few minutes with an audio oscillator that shows frequency will demonstrate this - double the frequency a few times and hear it go progressively flat. To correct this, on guitars it is called "sweetened", all pianos are tuned this way and called "German tuning". This is not about intonation or temperaments, it is that higher frequencies are heard as increasingly flat and lower frequencies are heard as increasingly sharp. It has little to do with the instrument and everything to do with the way the ears hear frequency. Their explanation for sweetened tuning is incorrect. They claim no two instruments are alike, yet their tuner uses standard preset adjustments for the correction to sweetened tuning (my tuner will save the specific frequencies of my own particular guitar when sweetened tuned, to be used for subsequent tuning). They claim theirs is the highest level of precision available, but my 10 year old TurboTuner ST-200 is five times more precise (0.02 cent vs their 0.1 cent). If you need tempering etc, you need the strobe. The Micros shut off automatically after a few minutes without a signal. I also had many batteries die because the Snark buttons are easily pushed by other small parts in the outer pocket of a gig bag. I stopped using Snarks after several broke at the ball retaining clips. Going beyond the 2nd harmonic, the Micro display is not fine enough & a strobe is needed. And intonation is easily checked & adjusted by setting saddle position for accuracy and consistency of 12th fret harmonic and fretted notes. But for $22/pair on Amazon, you can’t go wrong with the Micros - and a quick ear check for beat tones of 12th fret harmonics against the next higher string seems to be enough to fine tune after a few songs. The Stroboclip is a bit more accurate and versatile, so I think it’s great for recording or for playing with multiple other chording instruments (all of which have to be in equally perfect tune for it to make the most impact). They’re low profile and don’t get shifted around or broken because they don’t stick out like many others do. I started using D’Addario Micro Tuners about a year ago and love them, especially on gigs.
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